DEVOTEE: Sri Gurudev, your description
of Divine Translation as the Outshining of everything has
some foreshadowing in the traditional descriptions of the
end of a yuga, when everything disappears in Siva. Can the
Kali Yuga be the time when everything is being Divinely
Translated as opposed to the traditional view that
everything will be destroyed?
SRI DA AVABHASA: Of
SRI DA AVABHASA: You must
communicate My Confessions, and say they are such. So, you
are the limit that is supposed to make the
DEVOTEE: At various times You have
indicated that Your devotees were not ready to really
communicate this Confession, because our understanding was
too limited. And at certain times You have asked us to stop
SRI DA AVABHASA: I asked that you
not make cultic nonsense out of My Life.
Devotee: It seems to me that Your
Mastery of the Goddess necessarily marks the beginning of
the end of the end-time.
Avatara Adi Da: Yes.
The Way of Realization of
Light, God, The Real Condition, Truth, Bliss, or Happiness
Is Not The Search For Fulfillment or Release In The Context
Of Objectified Light, or God (Which is The Context Of The
Cosmic Mandala, or conditional worlds, forms, and beings),
but It Is To Identify With The Subjective Nature Of Light,
or God (Which Is Always Prior To The Cosmic Mandala, or all
conditional worlds, forms, and beings).
Reveals The Perfectly Subjective Heart Itself, Which Is
Eternally Prior To attention, mind, body, The Circle, The
Arrow, and all worlds, and The Hearts Own Way, Which Is To
Stand As Is , Prior To Every Kind Of Seeking, and Prior To
Any and All Movements Of attention, and Prior Even To
attention itself .
“Om” Refers To The Self-Existing
and Self-Radiant Divine Being As The Transcendental (or
Unconditional) and Inherently Spiritual Condition, Which Is
Prior To all sounds, thoughts, and things (or Even all
conditional forms and states), and, Yet, Which Is The Seat
and Source Of all sounds, thoughts, and things (or Even Of
all conditional forms and states). It Is The Self Of all
beings. It Could Be Called The “Self-Father”. It Is In The
“Father-Position”, or The “Husband-Position”, In Relation To
conditional forms and events.
My Identity As The Divine Person,
and (Thus and Thereby) Showing Joyous Proof That (Prior To
self-Contraction) You (and Even all conditionally Manifested
beings) Are Always Already One With The One To Be
The Boundless Center, Heart,
Source, and Self Of all, The Very and Inherently Perfect
Divine (Itself), Prior To The Cosmic Domain (and Yet Being
The Cosmic Domain, and every conditionally Manifested being,
As Being Itself, and As The Inherent or Native Feeling Of
DEVOTEE: Sri Gurudev, when You were
speaking before about the uniqueness of Your Manifestation
as the Divine, I had a sense of what You meant when You said
that You are Prior to the Cosmic Mandala. I felt that
everything in the Great Tradition has arisen within the
Cosmic Mandala. But You have arisen Prior to the Cosmic
SRI DA AVABHASA: That is the
difference. The searches and the Realizations of mankind
heretofore have been generated from the position not only of
egoity but of conditionality within the conditional Cosmic
Mandala. They are approaches to the Divine. In My Case, it
is the Divine That is Approaching. That is the difference
for all of you in how the Way of the Heart works in My
Company. The process in My Company is all about the
transcendence of egoity and the transcendence of the point
of view of conditionality and of the Cosmic
All of religion and Spirituality
heretofore has taken place within that context of egoity,
conditionality, the Cosmic Mandala. It has all been a search
within it. It has gone to the limit of all extremes, at the
periphery and in depth.
DEVOTEE: Your Experience will never
be duplicated. There will be devotees in the seventh stage
of life, but You are unique.
SRI DA AVABHASA: Why should it be
repeated, since it will never end?
ANOTHER DEVOTEE: Beloved Lord,
because of Your own process of Incarnation, has the Goddess
SRI DA AVABHASA: The Goddess is
always Incarnated as everything, as everyone, as the Cosmic
Mandala. That is the Goddess.
DEVOTEE: Forgive me for even daring
to speak in such language, but You as the Divine Person have
Incarnated uniquely in this time. The Goddess is, so to
speak, eternally Incarnatedexcept that You have told
us that the process of the Cosmic Mandala would come to an
end. The Goddess has always been Incarnated, whereas You are
SRI DA AVABHASA: Yes. She is
Incarnated, however, in the conditional sense of appearing.
In My relationship to the Goddess, She is converted in Her
disposition and set right in the context of the Divine.
Therefore, because of this, an entirely different view of
the Divine Energy is possible. The Goddess is not the
Incarnating Force or the Appearing Being in all this
suffering, illusion, and limitation. It is of great import
that the Goddess is wed, submitted, to the Ultimate Divine,
the Very Energy, the Inherent Radiance, the Self-Radiance of
This is the right understanding of
the Goddess. She no longer appears separately from that
“Point of View”. She is part of the Inherent Oneness of the
Divine. It is not “Me and the Goddess”. I Am Complete, as I
have said. There is no “difference”. I speak of the Goddess.
You do not. Fundamentally there is no Goddess, then. There
is only the Divine. The Divine Person Is One and Whole, not
two, not manyOne Person, One Absolute Being, Very
Consciousness, Very Force, All Love-Bliss, Self-Existing,
Self-Radiant, Absolute, not divided.
The only reason to talk about some
kind of two-ness between the Divine as Very Being, or
Consciousness Itself, and the Goddess, somehow Divine but
Independent Energy Appearing as all manifestationthe
only reason to speak in terms of that two-ness is the
dualistic vision associated with egoity, conditionality,
appearances. In that point of view it can seem that there
are two. But if you understand rightly, there is only One.
It is not “the God” and “the Goddess”the Divine Person
“and” the Goddess. There is just One. That was the
Realization in the Vedanta Temple. That was the
Accomplishment there. And that is what you must Realize
alsonot the Divine somehow over against you and all of
the conditional cosmos, but just the Very One Who Is
Inherently Beyond all “difference” and beyond
DEVOTEE: Beloved, there has always
only been That One.
SRI DA AVABHASA: Yes. But there have
been many appearances and many thoughts
DEVOTEE: We have Your Incarnation
SRI DA AVABHASA: My Sign set all of
it straight, actually Accomplished it, by virtue of Divine
Siddhis. My Divine Self-Realization is not a bit of poetry.
I am not merely using symbolic language, as if it was just
the same before and the Vedanta Temple was just a bit of
poetry. It is not that at all. It was an actual
Eventnot just the Event of My Divine Re-Awakening but
the Event of the utter submission of the entire Cosmic
Mandala to the Very Divine Condition by virtue of the Divine
Siddhis snapping the barrier that the Cosmic Mandala has
represented for beings until now.
DEVOTEE: Sri Gurudev, if there were
some way to investigate throughout the world what was
happening on September 10, 1970, should we expect to find
evidence of this at that precise moment, or more unfolding
over time? Or both?
SRI DA AVABHASA: I guess “both” is a
good way of putting it. You would not necessarily notice
some historical events that mean everything had changed. It
was not change in history. It was a change in the
fundamental Nature of existence. All the changes that might
occur on the basis of it are historical, but it is not about
history. It is about Most Perfect
All this historic mentality is
another part of the illusion of you all. In your
ego-basedsomehow God is the Maker of all this, God is
just sort of wandering around in history making this and
that happenmaking you win baseball games or whatever.
That is just part of the lore of ordinary mankind in their
seeking, the presumptions they make to protect themselves
and institutionalize their ideals. God does not make teams
win baseball games. To paraphrase a common saying, God is at
your side, not on your side. Look at all the people praying
at sporting events. They are supposing that God is right
there and that all they have to do is ask hard enough and
God changes history.
Even if you do ask, God is not
commanding history. You all are commanding history! If you
would enter into some greater depth of Divine Communion,
maybe you would have a more benign influence on history. But
it is your business.
DEVOTEE: There is one more question
from the mainland. Sri Gurudev, You have already addressed
similar questions, but this person wants to make sure that
You have said everything about this that needs to be said.
Why was time required from Swami Vivekanandas death until
Your Birth? Were there other factors involved besides the
availability of a Vehicle? Or was there a specific reason to
wait for “Franklin Jones”?
SRI DA AVABHASA: When the time was
right, I Appeared.
KANYA NAVANEETA: The beginning of
World War II.
SRI DA AVABHASA: Look at all the
other changes that occurred in nearly the first half of the
twentieth century before I Appearedtremendous
technological changes, communication changes. It was in that
period that mankind came everyone face to face, all
traditions, all politics, face to face with all and with
everything, with all the technology and scientific
materialism that has come to characterize the twentieth
century. All that was part of the ripening of the
DEVOTEE: Sri Gurudev, when You first
began to Teach, the technology that was available was just
beginning to be useful.
SRI DA AVABHASA: During and since
World War II all this has fully developed. If I had Appeared
in 1903, I would be a pretty old dude right nowninety
years old and a little overripe to deal with you fools.
Also, Freud would not have completed his work. He died the
year I was born. What has come to characterize mankind as a
whole did not characterize mankind fully until the time of
My Birth. What has come to characterize the twentieth
century and what will characterize the future took a good
piece of the twentieth century to developmodern
physics, all kinds of things.
DEVOTEE: Sri Gurudev, You have also
said that the time when You began Your Teaching Work was a
specific time when there was an opening in
SRI DA AVABHASA: [raising His
eyebrows] I must have been tipsy when I said that. I
have not been observing any big openings herejust the
same old stuff.
KANYA NAVANEETA: You also Gave time
to those who needed to live a little longer.
SRI DA AVABHASA: Yes. Many of those
associated with Swami Vivekananda took a long time to
ANOTHER DEVOTEE: Beloved Lord, I
believe You said that the Submission of Your gross
personality to Your True Condition made it possible for all
the Cosmic Mandala to submit to You and to Realize Your True
Condition. It seems that the Great Event at the Vedanta
Temple and what followed that submission of the Goddess is
evidence of it.
SRI DA AVABHASA: All part of it,
yes, the relinquishment of independence, of commitment to
this foulness here. The Great Goddess has been described in
many ways. One of the traditional descriptions is that She
is a whore here, dangling out, hanging out, for the
amusement of everyone, just doing Her thing, not manifesting
fidelity. In the Vedanta Temple She manifested Her fidelity
and ceased to be a whore. Fidelity characterizes the true
woman, and the true man. Fidelity is something you all must
realizenot the mere fidelity of man to woman but
fidelity to the Divine.
ANOTHER DEVOTEE: Beloved Sri
Gurudev, in The Hymn of The True Heart-Master, verse 72
says, “I bow down to That Always New One, Who Appears in the
world again and again by the Magic and Mystery of His Own
Will and Love, but Who is only the Mass of Pure
Consciousness, Spiritually Radiant, the Sun of the Heart,
the Bright Destroyer of un-Happiness.”
In the line where You Say, “Who
Appears in the world again and again by the Magic and
Mystery of His Own Will and Love”I was trying to feel
that as the Revelation of Your unique and Only Appearance in
the world and the cosmos at this time…
SRI DA AVABHASA: I have already
explained the “again and again” part. I have said to you
just tonight and many times before that there have been
Realizers in the world. There have been visions that could
be called “Divine” in a conditional sense. Therefore, there
have been Divine Appearances, intuitions of the Divine,
experiences of the Divine based on the conditional
apparatus. These statements account for it.
You must also understand that The
Hymn of The True Heart-Master is My Re-Speaking of a
traditional text. Therefore, I had to account for such
notions as “again and again”. Do you understand how I am
DEVOTEE: Until You clarified it, Sri
Gurudev, I believe many of us, I can certainly speak for
myself, did not understand that clearly, especially before
Your Great Discourse on March 6, when You very clearly told
us that You are the only seventh stage Adept. Previous to
that time, I did not really have the right understanding of
this verse. Now I feel all of us can directly understand
what You mean by that.