The Ego Illusion Exists in Reality

 

The Ego Illusion Exists in Reality

Real and Wax Apples

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There are not two Realities
(or two Truths, or two Real Gods).
There Is Only One Reality
(Which Is Truth, and the Only Real God).
Nevertheless,
the One Reality Is of Such a Nature That
(Apparently)
It Can either Be Unconditionally Realized As One,
and
Self-Existing,
and
Always Already The Case
or
conditionally experienced

 HE-AND-SHE IS ME
Epilogue
Adi Da Samraj

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If there is no doctrine and spiritual community,

How can there be a Buddha?

If emptiness is conceived in this way,

The three jewels are contradicted.

Hence you assert that there are no real fruits.

And no Dharma. The Dharma itself

And the conventional truth

Will be contradicted.

The Buddha’s teaching of the Dharma

Is based on two truths:

A truth of worldly convention

And an ultimate truth.

Those who do not understand

The distinction drawn between these two truths

Do not understand

The Buddha’s profound truth.

Without a foundation in the conventional truth,

The significance of the ultimate cannot be taught.

Without understanding the significance of the ultimate,

Liberation is not achieved.

By a misperception of emptiness

A person of little intelligence is destroyed.

Like a snake incorrectly seized

Or like a spell incorrectly cast.

For that reason—that the Dharma is

Deep and difficult to understand and to learn— 

Mulamadhyamakakarika

By Nagarjuna

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Avatar Adi Da Samraj
December 5, 2004

AVATAR ADI DA SAMRAJ: The Ego is a kind of a double position. That IS the position of egoity. Egoity is not an absolute isolation. It can seem to be so, but it is like a wax apple. The wax apple still exists in reality itself. It doesn’t exist in the context of natural apples that come from trees, but nonetheless, it’s still in the universe. It’s associated with reality itself, not the reality of being an apple.

And that is the case with egoity. It’s not absolutely exiled from reality. I can break through it in various kinds of moments if My devotee is turned to Me, available to Me. Then, there are, then there’s evidence of this reality that is always already the case. The experiential evidence, such as you’re describing is always limited by the mode of experiencing that is its typical metaphor. So some people speak in terms of energy more like, closer to the body identification, or gross identification. Some people speak in terms of visions and such, experientially, more like the realm of mind or fifth stage phenomena as opposed to energy more in the fourth stage sense. Then, or otherwise as you seem to be speaking in the mode of a kind of sixth stage language of awareness, a kind of causal dimension of perspective on it. But because the experiences are always conditionally framed, given through metaphor in the midst of psycho-physically experiencing which inevitably returns as the overlay of existence, every kind of experiential tendency represented differently by different devotees, or different moments in any devotee’s life, has a characteristic associated with the stages of life, often a dominant expression. You are describing a kind of experiencing that you have had in My Company some number of times, and it has this sixth stage kind of quality, the awareness kind of description. But it is still framed in the metaphor of the body-mind. It’s not perfect awakening. It’s not seventh stage realization. It is a tacit realization given through a metaphor, and yet it is a tacit awareness of Me prior to conditions.

That is the very Condition of conditions. It is the Reality Itself in which both natural apples and wax apples are arising. It is My Own Person. It is not merely there. It is transmitted by Me as Me. And by continuing in the turning to Me that is true devotion, the true yoga of Adidam, this tacit participation in My State ultimately goes beyond the metaphors of the body-mind, the metaphors of waking, dreaming, and sleeping, the metaphors of gross, subtle and causal, and is realized in its fullness in the seventh stage awakening to My State and Person, or State of Person beyond all associations, beyond all limiting metaphors and beyond all changes, gross, subtle, or causal, all space-time changes, all perspectives, all point of view, overlays, all ideas of self, all questions. It is an unbroken Samadhi of realization of Me in which there is no conditional reference or foundation for the realization of Me. It’s not in time, and therefore it doesn’t proceed and it doesn’t stop.

It doesn’t exclude the cosmic pattern either. So it is not quite right simply to identify it as awareness and not the states and objects of conditional existence. It is not not that. It is that. But all of that is recognized, and so there is no conditional dependency providing the frame or metaphor for the realization. It cannot be lost. It’s not about having to be in a state separate from gross, subtle, and causal conditions or separate from waking, dreaming or sleeping or separate from the body-mind. It’s not a separate state or realization. It cannot become hidden then. It is what is. It is that which is always already the case. And nothing can arise that is not that.

So, what you are describing is of the nature of this kind of breakthrough participation in My State. It could be described as an experience, though it’s not merely an experience in the conventional sense of something merely or only conditional. And it also seems to be temporary, or it has its moments, you’ve had your moments where this was shown to you without limitation by waking, dreaming and sleeping phenomena. And in other moments, such as the one now in which you’re asking the question, it is somewhat covered, somehow covered, and has a kind of quality of being mysterious and untouchable, and yet it is not lost. And that’s simply the actual state of the ego.

Even if it’s a wax apple instead of a natural one, even though it doesn’t come from a tree, it’s still has its source in the same reality that is always already the case. That’s the true tree, not the one from which a natural apple falls. The natural apple arises in the same reality as the wax apple. They are equal in that sense even though they are wholly different in the realm of perception or thinking. Waking, dreaming and sleeping are different from one another, from an experiential perspective, and yet, they arise in the same reality.

So, whether a person is describing energies or visions or mind forms of any kind or tacit modes of awareness that seem to be transcendental or are by description what could be called transcendental, it doesn’t make any difference what the framework or mode of experiential state associated with the Transmission of My Own State appears to be. And ultimately, there is realization of Me without the metaphor in between. But that’s why the sadhana is required, the sadhana of turning to Me and all of the process of this Way that I’ve revealed is necessary because of the apparent believability of the metaphor of your own experience. And the sadhana is necessary or is required until the mysteriousness or power of conditional experience is perfectly transcended, which means this devotion must be perfect.


 

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