The Completing Discourses of the 25-Year Revelation – Table of Contents
I Don’t Need Anything; I Just Want To See You!
by Lynne Wagner
Lynne Wagner is a devotee who currently serves in the Dawn Horse Press. She lived and served for many years in Bhagavan Adi Das Company, primarily as a school teacher for His children. Lynne was a retreatant at Naitauba in June of 1995, the time of this Leela.
Over the twenty years of being Beloved Adi Das devotee, I have always believed celibacy to be a quicker route to Realization. And despite my difficulties with this practice, I have often chosen it, feeling that if I did not I would be forfeiting the many gifts Beloved has to offer.
In June I was invited again to come to Turaga Dau Loloma Naitaubashram on retreat. I came after three years of being apart from my Beloveds Physical Form, and with the unresolved issue of celibate practice still weighing on my heart.
One of the first things that happened when I arrived on Naitauba was Beloved Calling and asking if there were any questions for gathering-especially from the new retreatants. As I sat in the Communications office, I was afraid to say anything. I listened to other peoples questions as they proposed them to Beloved and wondered if I had any question to ask. Suddenly it became obvious that the celibacy “consideration” was my question, the question I had been obsessing over for years! I then asked Beloved if it was necessary for me to practice celibate renunciation in order to grow in the Way of the Heart. Beloved didnt say anything at the moment but said we might discuss it in the gathering that night.
My chance to speak to Beloved Adi Da came up again in the gathering a few hours later. I told Him that I had missed Him greatly over the past three years and that I was very grateful to be in His Company again. I then told Him that I felt I would never grow as a practitioner unless I practiced celibate renunciation. Here is His Compassionate and Humorous Response:
ADI DA SAMRAJ: The body-mind might like celibacy-you do not like it! [Beloved laughs.] I mean, the body, the body-mind just as it is, might not mind it at all. But your disposition, of course, mentally expressed and so on, is disinclined towards it. This body itself, as a structure, does not mind celibate renunciation, nor does the mind, just as free energy without any strategy or purpose to add to the body.
In other words, you, in your own personal disposition associated with that mechanism there, cannot come up with a reason to be a celibate renunciate because you are largely thinking of it in sexual terms. Celibate renunciation is not about sexuality basically, nor is it about a negative opinion relative to sexuality, or a negative choice relative to sexuality itself We discussed this here at length recently.
Fundamentally, not only in the Way of the Heart but traditionally, what I call celibate renunciation has not been, except of course in some circles, a matter of deciding that sex is something negative, or just that you must exhaust yourself sexually before you can choose celibate renunciation. Celibate renunciation its about the relinquishment of “bonding”-“bonding” to the world, “bonding” to conditional existence. Bondage is relinquished.
Through ego-based “bonding”, all bondage occurs. So that is necessarily the element of bondage in all sexual activity, all sexual relationships. But what is renounced in celibate renunciation is not sex but bondage, and therefore the “bonding” effort, the “bonding” principle. From that, follows a discipline relative to sexuality, as in most any other kind of activity, in which the “bonding” motive may be exercised.
Celibate renunciation in this Way is not a sex-negative practice, or something that is based on a sex-negative decision. It is based on understanding oneself relative to bondage and all of the games of “bonding”. Rather than sex being renounced, then, the use of sex for the purpose of “bonding”, to make the effect of bondage, is what is renounced.
You seem to be confronting this matter as a sex question-as people have often done in these “considerations”. And it is not a sex question. Fundamentally it is a question about bondage and the motive toward “bonding”, dependency and all the rest.
LYNNE: I felt that somehow the opportunity to be sexually active was an attachment to something I needed or wanted. I understood that was bondage.
ADI DA SAMRAJ: It is “bonding” first of all. Attachment is “bonding”, and dependency on various things, including perhaps even practical things, being taken care of, and so forth-the whole range of things-and also being pleasurized, or having the comforts of association. These are all “bonding” motives or activities.
And you must observe the entirety of your life, which is all about “bonding” to this, that, and the other thing-“bonding” to the body-mind, “bonding” to the world, “bonding” to conditional existence, “bonding” to having a world-the whole notion of having a world. So in the course of your practice and “consideration” altogether, you may come to the point of an acute sense of the bondage associated with all of your “bonding” life. And this is the basis for celibate renunciation. It is also the basis for magnification of a true., essential, renunciate, ego-renouncing disposition, in any context of practice in the Way of the Heart.
All of My devotees are called to renunciation-not in the ascetical sense, and not necessarily in the celibate renunciate sense. But as My devotee, you renounce egoity in every moment. You practice Ishta-Guru-Bhakti Yoga. You renounce bondage. But you may come to a point of an acute awareness of the bondage effect of all of your “bonding”. And then, along with being acutely aware of a profound impulse to Realize Me, you might choose celibate renunciation. That choice made on that basis, can of course quicken practice profoundly. But these factors must be there.
LYNNE: I remember one time we were having a conversation and You Said, “Who is more attractive, You, or Me?” And I said, “You are, Beloved.” You then Said, “Well then, one of us better get out of town!”
I definitely feel that that is the whole Truth. It is about whether I am choosing You or myself. I for a long time tried to make that choice willfully. But it feels to me that it can only be made truly, from the heart, because you are my Master. And I cannot do it to myself. There has to be a greater motive, and a great Attraction. And that its why I practice-because I am profoundly attracted to You and What You are and What You Shine.
You are the Most Magnificent, and the entire Communication of Who You Are and What you Are. I feel that. But at that point of “consideration” (celibacy), I was just feeling myself and what I was going to be giving up, and my bondage and my attachment.
ADI DA SAMRAJ: Then you start not consulting your heart, but your self egoically and all your adaptations, motives. You also have to understand that celibate renunciation is not the ideal in the Way of the Heart, such that if you are really good you choose it, and if you are not any good you do not. It is not that.
LYNNE: Its not?
ADI Da SAMRAJ: No. There are many options relative to the life-circumstance in terms of practice in this Way. And celibate renunciation is not idealized. It is one of the options relative to the circumstance in which you practice. There are others, as I Said, including intimate relationships and so on. So on whatever basis, you can choose your life-circumstance. But to choose Me to begin with, to make this vow of devotion, practice, the Way itself, is to have some fundamental understanding, feeling, about the bondage of your existence and feeling the motive to go beyond it. Clearly that is what it is about for everyone. All My devotees are renunciates, then, in that sense.
So the question is, then, what should be the circumstance of your practice of this renunciation? And that is an individual matter. And as I Said, there is no ideal. There are numerous options. It is a realistic matter. What mode of practice, what life-circumstance of practice can you choose, and live with energy in, dance in? Celibate renunciate or in intimacy or whatever, you have got to keep dancing. You have to do this devotion. It is a happy renunciate life. So that is what you have to find out. What is the mode of life-practice-yes, discipline, yes, renunciate in the devotional sense-but what mode of life-practice is the one you can choose?
It is not a matter of consulting the ego. It is consulting the heart. But it is also a matter of your moment of maturity and the intensity of your motive to Realize Me. How much you are willing to cope with? How much you want to let go of? So there are many factors in it.
It is also a matter of growth. Some devotees may involve themselves in intimate relationship, and then over time become celibate in that relationship, or may choose celibate renunciation at some point. Others may continue to remain in intimacy and sexually active. I have Given all kinds of Instruction about this. My Instruction to you about true intimacy and sexual Yoga is an Instruction about how to conform your emotional-sexual life to Me, to the purpose of this Way. It is how to make intimacies essentially into a renunciate practice-in which you go beyond the “bonding” impediments that are otherwise associated with intimacy.
So the devotees in this gathering that are involved in intimate relationships are not supposed to be just a bedroom community of householders. I Call them to be renunciates. The practice of true intimacy goes beyond the “bonding”-bondage exchanges, emotionally and so on. The Yogic practice sexually goes beyond the “bonding”-bondage limitations in sex practice itself. I have Instructed you how to make these intimacies, sexually active or not, into a true renunciate practice that conforms to Me-and that is, in fact, the exercise of Ishta-Guru-Bhakti Yoga, in which both partners support the others impulse to Realize Me, rather than just create bondage for one another, and play out “Oedipal” games, worldly games, worldly purposes, all the reactive dramatizations, and so forth. Instead, they do this renunciate discipline of true intimacy and sexual Yoga.
So as long as that is what you need to dance as My devotee., you do that Yoga. And if you come to some point where you are so acutely aware that even that binds you too much, not only to sex and your intimate partner and so forth, but just about the whole display of life, of bondage that you just cannot tolerate, would not tolerate, because you have such a profound impulse to Realize Me, and such a profound revulsion to bondage itself, then you might choose celibate renunciation. Celibate renunciation is about relinquishing the bondage associated with the “bonding” motive.
It is not a sex-negative practice, however. Essentially, it is an own-body Yoga sexually. So it is not a sex-negative practice. It deals very directly with sexuality, as the people involved in intimacy must. It is just that it is dealt with completely apart from the “bonding” motive, and is associated with a consistent relinquishment of the “bonding” motive, “bonding” activity, and all the bondage associated with that.
But even to practice in intimacy, you must be practicing in such a way that you are relinquishing the egoic disposition, the bondage intention or effect associated with your “bonded” intimacy. You must do it there, too. So it is strictly an individual matter associated with your maturity, your impulse to Realize, and your degree of sensitivity to bondage altogether-“bonding” to the world and the result of bondage. It is these factors that determine in an individual case whether to choose celibate renunciation as their circumstance of practice or intimacy. Basically those are the two options. [June 5, 1995]
Throughout this “consideration”, Beloved brought me to feel that I could relax about my life-choice. If celibacy occurred as a natural expression of my practice of Ishta-Guru-Bhakti Yoga, it would not be a stressful and agonizing ordeal to make the choice. I would be doing it for the sake of Realization; I would be doing it in response to Him.
At the end of this conversation Beloved turned to me and Said, “Are you relaxed about all of this, then?”
I told Him that I was, and I was very grateful for His Instruction and His Purifying Grace. I had been motivated to choose celibacy in a strategic effort to “earn” Realization by doing the right thing. Suddenly I felt relieved of my self-imposed obligation to be a celibate or fail at practice. My heart-response to my Beloved Ishta-Guru was the foundation of true practice not, good behavior.
Several days later Beloved Adi Da was gathering aboard the Turaga Dau Loloma with many devotees. As He gathered I was in the retreat dorm in a discussion group with several ladies. I felt absolutely mad with the need to see my Beloved Guru. I wanted to be on the boat with Adi Da, but only Ashram residents had been invited to the gathering. I kept thinking “I am on retreat now. The right thing to do is stay here in my group. Adi Da doesn’t want me to be with Him.” I was depressed and sulky about it, but the more we talked about Beloved, the more distracted I became by my love for Him. Suddenly I felt no doubt or reservation – I had to see Him! Nothing was going to keep me away!
I jumped up out of my group and yelled to everybody, “It’s time!” I ran out of the dorm and raced down to beach – all the way to Nukusa without stopping. The ladies all chased after me, calling “Wait, wait for us!” I was so full of love for Beloved that the whole way down I yelled His Name at the top of my lungs, “Beloved! Beloved!” When I got to Nukusa I stopped and I yelled one more time, calling from my heart to Him.
“Whos out there?” He yelled across the water.
“Its Lynne!”.
“What do you need?”
“I don’t need anything, I just want to see you.”
“Our consideration is complete, is it not?”
Yes, it is Beloved.”
“And I Bless your relationship with Tom,” He yelled again.
“I love You and so does Tom,” I shouted to Him.
“I know,” He boomed back.
We were shouting back and forth across the water to one another in the dark at the top of our lungs. And His Voice was clear and strong and so full of Love as it came to me. We could hear each other perfectly.
Then He yelled in an ominous voice and commanded me, “Go back to the retreat quarters. You will receive My Darshan tomorrow!”
I felt very annoyed! I paused for a minute and then yelled back, “I dont like that!”
I could hear Beloveds laughter and everyone on the boat laughed with Him, surprised and delighted by my straightforward response.
“Im going to swim out to the boat!” I yelled.
“Don’t do that, you might drown,” He warned.
“I’m going to swim out to the boat!” I yelled again. I started wading out in to the water.
“Dont swim out, well send a boat for you!”
Soon after, a boat came to pick me up and I was able to see Beloved Adi Da, as I had so greatly longed to all day. This incident showed me how to be completely honest with Beloved. Because I was so in love with Him, our conversation was light and happy. I did not care if I got “in trouble”. I did not care if I did the “right thing” or the “wrong thing”, or if it was appropriate or not. The “Oedipal” relationship that I dramatized with Him throughout the years of my sadhana, and especially throughout the celibacy “considerations”, dropped away in that moment as I was just moved from the heart by my attraction to Him.
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