Have I Said It?
Bubba Free John (Adi Da
Samraj), 1973
Bubba Free John
(1974)…..Adi
Da Samraj (2008)
The Guru
The One Who Was to Come is Always Already Here.
All the assumptions
You want to make
About the Guru
Are fundamentally false.
The Guru is the very
Function of Truth.
The shakti that flows
Through the true Guru
Is already the Truth.
It is the force of Truth,
It is the one intensity
That is always already Truth.
The Guru is
That Divine power.
The Guru is not separate
From God.
He is not separate
From your very self.
The Heart is the Guru.
The current of bliss
Is his form.
The bliss of unqualified enjoyment
Is his teaching.
The knowledge of all this
Is liberation and freedom.
The enjoyment of all this
Is reality.
The existence of all this
Is Truth.
The activity of all this
Is Understanding.
And Understanding
Is real life.
The ultimate form of the Guru
Is very reality,
Truth, the Heart, the light,
The form of God.
The Guru himself
Is the communication.
The Guru himself
Is the teaching.
The Guru himelf
Is the Truth.
This is the highest form
Of the teaching
Of the Siddhas.
The Guru is not an other.
His activity is a paradox.
His position is the
Paradoxical one of humor.
He is already free.
Therefore, he is only
Full of humor
In the face of all seekers.
He is eternally present,
Which is bliss
And no-dilemma.
The one who was to come
Is always already here.
The Siddha,
The heaven-born one,
Is heaven made manifest
In the conditional worlds.
The way of the Siddhas
Is to live with God,
To live God presently,
As your assumed
Nature and condition.
The way of the Siddhas
Is a happy, easy way.
It is Divine grace
In the world.
The great Siddhas,
Men of radical Understanding,
Are those who live
Consciously as the Heart.
The function as the Heart
For living beings.
The Siddhas communicate
The living force of reality.
They live it to living beings.
They simply live the natural state
Of enjoyment with other beings.
And those who stay
To live in friendship
With the Man of Understanding
Tend also to Understand.
The Siddha or descended master
Enters the manifest life
For the sake of those
Who can live to him directly,
For the sake of those
Whom he can acquire while alive
And draw into the form of Truth.
He comes especially
For these devotees,
Although his work
Is ultimately
For the sake of
The whole world.
In all worlds, in all places,
In all regions of all universes
There have been Siddhas.
And they always come to communicate
That what you bastards are up to
Is really a crock of shit!
And all of the Siddhas
That have appeared in all the worlds
Have come to tell you this,
Because all of them
Are established in a realm
That has nothing whatever
To do with anything whatsoever.
They were finally dissolved.
They did not have to be amused.
Nothing had to make any sense
Whatsoever.
All those who enjoy such
Divine realization
And who appear in any manifest plane
Are stuck in the paradox
Of that enjoyment.
They cannot make any sense
Our of it really.
They do the best they can
To try to establish it in others
Through all kinds of weirdo influeces.
They try to make sense,
But they do not make sense.
The work of such
So-called individuals
Is paradoxical,
It is eternal,
It is not really describable,
But it is the most perfect
And specific and necessary activity
In all the manifest worlds.
It is the work of the Siddhas.
The earth is bullshit!
It’s nothing.
But within all words
Siddhas appear,
And they don’t appear
For any karmic reasons.
They don’t come
To improve anything.
They appear spontaneously
Without reason.
And their teaching is unreasonable.
And they communicate a possibility
That is utterly beyond
Your fulfillment.
This is the work of the Siddhas.
This is the “gospel,”
The happy and unreasonable
Message of the Siddhas.
The human Guru
Is a special combination
Of the eternal Divine process
And a human entity
In the last stage if its manifestation.
The final karmas
Of such a human individual
Are benign and fit
For this service.
The Guru in the world,
The Guru who is physically present,
Is a direct manifestation
Of the form of reality.
He is always that.
He is that absolutely.
His visible human form
Is an absolute reflection
Of the perfect form,
And a perfect communication
Of it.
The form of the Guru
Is the Divine form.
The Guru
Is the Divine
In the world.
The Guru,
The one who would awaken you,
Is not a person,
He is not an individual
Within the dream.
He is your very consciousness.
He is the real,
The self,
He is the light,
He is the true waking state,
The Heart,
Breaking through
The force of dreaming.
He is the
Waking sunlight,
The very light of Truth,
But he appears
Within the dream
As an ordinary man.
Essentially
It is your own nature
Appearing within the dream
To awaken you.
The Guru is your awakening,
And your always already
Conscious state.
He is not
Some separateness,
Some individual.
He is very consciousness,
The real.
The Guru
Is not an other,
Nor does he live
As an other in any sense.
The Guru is one’s own nature.
Absolutely,
Not symbolically,
The Guru is one’s very consciousness.
He is not this limited state.
He is your own enjoyment,
Perfectly known.
The Guru is not simply
A human individual,
A cultic figure.
The Guru is a special
Function in God.
It is not a form of “status.”
It is not something to be achieved.
It is not a big guy who appears
Among a lot of little guys.
It is not a form of
Superiority or narcissism.
Guru is a function
Of the very self or reality,
Appearing in human terms.
The true Guru is not some superman.
He must always become nothing
So that the Divine power
Becomes active.
The true Guru
Is not the fascinating
Initiator of experience in men,
But one who has died in the Heart,
Who has become empty
Of powers and without self,
Who has found that
Fullness is only, always
And already God.
The Guru is an agent
Of the Divine work,
Not because he has all kinds
Of heroic accomplishments
In his psyche,
But because he has
Become nothing.
The Guru lives
As the present Divine,
Not because he has attained anything,
But because he has been undone.
The Guru is not identical
To a person.
The only reason an apparent
Human individual can function as Guru
Is because he has consciously
Ceased to be identical
To a human individual in limitation.
There is no longer any sense whatsoever
In the human Guru of separate existence.
None.
The Guru is not a personality.
The only reason he can perform
The function of Guru
Is because he is dead.
He is finished with all the cults
And conventions of human life.
He has already wrecked himself,
So you don’t have to worry about him.
He is finished.
The Guru in the world
Is a paradoxical event.
He is always a paradox.
His action is a paradox,
Like the universe itself.
The Guru is not an idol.
He is not a form of fascination.
The Guru
Is not just a human person
Who can have human
Effects on you.
The Guru is active,
Present as that Divine power.
The Guru is communicated to you
Under all conditions,
Twenty-four hours a day.
Once that contact is established,
Once that relationship
Is established,
That power and intensity
Communicates itself
Under all conditions,
In all states.
The human Guru
Is just a way
Of communicating
In the world
The fact and the process
That is eternal.
The Guru
Appears in the world
As the Heart.
He doesn’t represent himself
As the Divine
In the exclusive sense.
In his ecstatic speech
He claims identity with the Divine,
But he is not making a statement
About himself,
About his ego
Or his personal qualities
In some exclusive sense.
He is making a statement
About all beings and worlds,
About the nature of reality,
The condition that is God.
This is that,
Without a doubt.
It is already so,
And that
Should be sufficient
For human beings,
But it is not.
Truth must come
In living form.
Truth must come
In a living form,
Absolutely.
Truth must
Confront a man,
Live him,
And meditate him.
It is not your meditation
That matters.
Truth must meditate you.
The matter of Truth
Is entirely academic
Until the Truth
Communicates itself to you,
Until the Truth
Takes you over,
Until the Truth
Does the sadhana
And creates the conditions
For transformation.
So the Truth
Must find some way
To communicate itself
As a function
In specific relationship to you.
Therefore, the human Guru
Is an appropriate means,
And that is why he exists.
Truth itself must become
The process of life
And communicate itself,
Create conditions in life,
And make demands, restoring
The conscious participation
Of the individual.
Dead Gurus can’t kick ass!
Individuals are terrified
In the face of the Divine demand.
But because the Divine is so elusive,
So subtle, they can live as if
There were no such one,
They can live as if it were untrue.
But when the Divine manifests
As the Guru,
He can no longer be refused.
The Guru
Is not some impotent old rascal.
The Guru should be able
To populate the earth.
The Guru is strong.
He is alive.
The true yogi
Is a bastard,
A wild, terrifying being,
A fire.
The intelligence of the Heart
Is a genius, a fire,
Not a little
Pipe-smoking philosopher.
It is the same power
That wields this universe
And devours billions of beings.
The Guru
Is a dangerous person.
B. Realization, the Man of Understanding:
the Man of Understanding lives only Truth to men.
The Man of Understanding
Perceives the logic of reality
And lives as it.
The self or unqualified reality
Is the foundation of all experience.
In the Man of Understanding,
It is obvious, it is apparent,
It is conscious.
For him it is always, only,
And absolutely obvious,
And he need not go through
Any sophisticated mental operations
For it to be so.
It depends on nothing.
In the Man of Understanding
There is no non-ecstatic speech,
No action that is not
Full of ecstasy,
No moment, no condition,
No thought
That is not already
Merged in God.
He knows absolutely nothing
About what will happen
After death,
Any more than he knows
What will happen
In the next moment while alive.
He is involved with the process itself,
Instantly.
He is always involved
With the whole process,
As a conscious event
In this moment,
And now in this moment,
And now in this moment,
And now in this moment.
The man who Understands
Simply Understands and abides
As Understanding,
The direct awareness of life
From moment to moment.
He already Understands,
He sits and enjoys
The fullness of Understanding
In his form
At that moment.
The Man of Understanding
No longer lives from
The point of view of the target
In any sense.
Not this gross body,
Not the vital body,
Not the subtle body,
Not the subtle mind,
Not the mind at all,
Not any form of subtlety,
Not any center,
Not any “light” body,
Not any eternal body,
No body.
The point of view of Truth
Is alive in the
Man of Understanding.
It is no longer separate.
Wherever limitation
Tends to arise,
It vanishes in him.
He doesn’t buy it.
He doesn’t act
From its point of view.
He doesn’t dramatize it.
He doesn’t believe it.
He never becomes it.
He simply does not notice
The mind in the usual way.
It is not that he has
Quieted his mind.
He is not his mind.
There is no one there
To be the mind.
Like a child,
He moves by delight.
He is a man of pleasure,
Of enjoyment.
Like a madman,
He learns nothing from life.
He doesn’t believe what he sees.
He doesn’t take it
To have any limiting significance.
He throws away all the things
That seem to everyone
So profound, so serious.
If anything arises,
Humor is not lost.
Therefore,
The Man of Understanding
Continues to live,
But with humor,
And he does with humor.
His life is a paradox.
The Man of Understanding
Lives only Truth to men.
Their struggle is as endless
As his bliss.
The Man of Understanding
Is simply a man
Who is awake.
Only the Man of Understanding
Is always already free.
He is free, blissful,
Creatively alive.
Thus, he is not only no-seeking,
Which is freedom.
He is eternally present,
Which is bliss and no-dilemma.
He is not a yogi,
A saint, or a sage.
He is only alive
In Truth.
The Man of Understanding,
Functioning as Guru,
Is an awakener.
He is always already awake.
He couldn’t care less
About your urges and demands
Within the dream.
The significance of the work
Of the Man of Understanding
Is not in anything he does
Within the dream.
He simply does not support it.
He does not live as it.
He does not believe it.
He does not take it seriously.
One who awakens
Is not concerned
For the destiny of those
Who appeared along with him
In his dream.
There is no such destiny.
There is no one.
The guy in the dream is waiting.
It is going to happen any day,
Either jesus is coming,
Or the quake is coming,
One or the other.
Or the war, or the bomb,
It is all coming.
And you have got to prepare for it,
Boys and girls!
But this guy who is just awake
Slowly sips a cup of sweeted herbs.
Everybody else is phewww!
Hitting the mantra,
Sucking dope,
Trusting God.
But this guy is unreasonable.
He just doesn’t care.
He may appear to be extraordinary,
A doer of famous things.
He may appear playfully as that.
But he is simply awake.
Nothing is happening.
Nothing has been accomplished.
All he has been is awake.
His freedom is extreme,
Beyond the point of wildness,
So that he is no longer wild.
His extremes are manifest
As ordinariness.
His extremes are his natural appearance.
Walking into a room
Is a maddening extreme
From his point of view.
It is odd, it is wildly imaginative!
When he contemplates his own
Consciousness,
When he contemplates
Being conscious,
He almost falls
Into a trance.
So, instead of contemplating
Consciousness,
He looks at people,
He talks, he does ordinary things.
Because everything has become
Insubstantial and unnecessary for him,
He lives only as that
Unmodified reality, and yet he,
Paradoxically, lives.
For such a one,
All life is paradox.
He sees he is not other
Than all that arises.
He sees he is, in Truth,
The world.
His speech and action
Is all paradoxes,
Humor, play.
He has not abandoned life,
Nor does he minimize it.
It has simply become an area
Of creative enjoyment.
He is a man of joy and pleasure,
Of love and knowledge,
Ability and help,
Detachment, calm, energy,
Clarity and force.
Even though he desires,
He only Understands.
Therefore, he appears
As any other peculiar man,
Except he bears a humor
Known only to Understanding.
The Man of Understanding
Cannot be found.
He cannot be followed.
He can only be understood
As the ordinary.
There is no
Unique and free man
In all the world,
Except the man
Who always Understands.
And he is impossible to find.
Therefore, Understand.
The Man of Understanding
Is not entranced.
He is not elsewhere.
He is not having an experience.
He is not passionless and inoffensive.
He is awake. He is present.
The Man of Understanding
Is a visible dilemma
To those who do not Understand.
He is acceptable
Only to those who Understand.
He always appears to be the opposite
Of what you are.
He always seems to sympathize
With what you deny.
Therefore, at times and over time
He appears as every kind of persuasion.
He is not consistent.
He has no image.
At times he asserts.
At times he denies.
At times he asserts what he has
Already denied.
At times he denies
What he has already asserted.
He is not useful.
His teaching is every kind of nonsense.
His wisdom is vanished.
Altogether, that is his wisdom.
At last, he represents
No Truth at all.
Therefore, his living coaxes everyone
Only to Understand.
His existence denies every Truth,
Every path
By which men depend upon certain Truths,
Certain experiences, certain stimulations,
Of freedom and enjoyment.
He is a seducer, a madman, a hoax,
A libertine, a fool, a moralist,
A sayer of Truths,
A bearer of all experience,
A righteous knave, a prince,
A child, an old one, an ascetic, a God.
He demonstrates the futility of all things.
Therefore, he makes Understanding
The only possibility.
And Understanding makes no difference at all.
Except it is reality,
Which was already the case.
Those who Understand
Are love.
The Man of Understanding
Arises as love,
Mad with love.
He is not narcissus.
Creativity is love.
The world is love.
I do not speak
From mere sentiment.
I am describing what
Is actually the case.
The Man of Understanding
Appears as love.
He is not separate from love.
He is generative love.
Love is the fullness,
The light,
The brightness of reality.
It is the form of reality.
I am he.
Therefore,
The Man of Understanding
Leaps for joy
That you have already understood.
He sees that there is
Only Understanding.
Thus, the Man of Understanding
Is constantly happy with you.
He is overwhelmed with happiness.
He says to you:
See how there is only
This world of perfect enjoyment,
Where everyone is happy,
And everything is blissful.
His Heart is always tearful
With the endless happiness
Of the world.
He has grasped it,
But no one is interested.
He is of interest to no one.
He smiles at you.
You notice it.
Everything has already died.
This is the other world.
C. Function: Guru is the function of
God.
Guru is not a kind of status.
It is a specific function.
The Guru is a function, a siddhi,
A process, an activity
Available to man.
The Guru is an eternal siddhi
Or function of the Divine reality.
The Guru is a
specific function
Of the Divine, not other than the Divine.
The Guru is a process,
Not a thing.
The Guru is that process
That we mean
By the term “grace.”
Guru is the function of God.
Guru is the function of God
That makes realization possible.
He is present in that specific function
That is perfect,
That is Truth.
The fundamental function
That is the Guru
Is siddhi.
The Guru is that siddhi.
The human Guru
Is the instrument
Of that siddhi,
The function of God.
He is alive in the Divine,
Ad the Divine process
Is functioning through him.
The Guru is not a “philosopher.”
The Guru must manifest
The tangible influence
Of the unqualified
Heart of reality.
He has to manifest
Reality alive.
The Guru is not Guru
By virtue of being independent,
Some guy who made it.
He is Guru by virtue
Of his function,
Which is the present
No obstacle to Truth,
And to maintain
A radical connection
To Truth.
The Guru is one
In whom there is nothing,
No obstacle,
And all the Divine functions
On all levels
Down into the human
Become open, active, pure.
Guru is a function
In which even liberation,
Realization, and Understanding
Are dissolved.
There must be nothing.
One who is aware
As the form of reality
Gives life to all things.
The Guru in satsang
Serves all beings.
There is no limitation
To the Guru’s capacity
To be that fundamental enjoyment
For all beings.
The Guru function is universally
Available and is not identical
To the human vehicle
Through which it may appear.
Otherwise the Guru in human form
Could not serve anything but human beings.
But in fact that siddhi is generated
To all manifest existence,
The whole range of dimensions
Of appearance and disappearance.
It is communicated
In all of those dimensions
Simultaneously and eternally.
Always all of it is given.
The entire function
And work of the Guru
Is to restore
Attention to God.
Everyone who attaches himself
To the Guru
Immediately gets involved
In the Divine,
Because the Guru
Is just a symbolic
Bit of theatre
Through which the Divine
Represents itself
In the world.
The Guru is only interested
In attaching people to himself.
Everything he sees:
“turn to me.”
He is the Divine
In the world.
And the Divine demands
Absolute attention.
The Guru is not a gentleman
Who comes into the world
And tells you to recite
Your fucking mantra.
The Guru comes
And wipes out all of that bullshit.
He is not a gentleman.
The Guru is present
In the world
In the form of a demand.
The Guru appears
In the asylum
Of ordinary men.
The Guru
Has no power or intention
To fascinate mankind
But only to be of use
To mankind.
The perfect activity
Of the Divine,
Of the Guru,
Is mere presence.
Fundamentally,
Apart from all the theatre
That the Guru creates
In order to impress people,
To shake them up
And bring them along,
He is doing one thing.
He is simply being present.
Everything he does
Is a paradoxical play
Because it is not serving
What it appears to serve.
He makes the world
Reveal its own humor.
The Guru operates from the point of view
Of a perfect assumpton
Of your Divine existence.
He doesn’t just go around
Assuming mentally that everybody is God.
He can make that assumption
Only because it is perfectly apparent to him.
That is all there is to it.
He makes no assumptions
On a lower level.
So when he enters into relationship
With you, that perfection tends also to be
Generated in your case,
Because his assumption of your true nature
Manifests as power to transform.
The Guru assumes your enlightenment.
He doesn’t mechanically enlighten you,
Or give you something to do
To enlighten yourself.
He absorbs you.
He is you to begin with.
But the Guru in human form
Consciously assumes your Divine state
In every function in which you appear.
He assumes it in your very cells
And literally, actively lives you.
The Guru literally meditates you.
He is in a position to do so,
Since he is you.
While rested in the most intimate
And profound intuition
Of the Divine,
The human Guru
Embraces living beings
In a mutual sacrifice
Of Divine distraction.
The Guru accepts
Whatever is yielded to him
And replaces it
In the life of his devotee
With his own
Condition, form and nature.
The Guru replaces
You with himself.
He is the paradoxical man.
He is that other dimension in person.
Like a genie in a dream,
He is both a perfect distraction
And a perfect servant.
He calls you constantly
And roughens your feet.
He intensifies the sunlight in your room.
He does not awaken you
To another place or dream.
Rather he serves an awakening
In which there is no realm,
No implication, and no adventure.
He does not awaken you
To another place.
He awakens you in place,
So that even while
The dream of living survives,
The noticing escapes you.
What men bring to the Guru
Is their intuition of reality.
The Guru lives it consciously,
Is the sun to their
Deep-seated intuition,
And he draws it
Into this instant.
The Guru appears
In the midst of the dreams
Of ordinary waking life
Like sunlight in the morning.
When you are still dreaming,
Still asleep,
The sun comes up.
It gets brighter and brighter,
And the light comes into the room.
At last, the light, the day itself,
Becomes sufficient to wake you,
And then, all of a sudden,
You are not dreaming,
And everything is all right.
The Guru is simply that sunlight process,
That intensification,
Rising on you always,
Without any other special activity.
His relationship to you, your
Condition of relationship to him,
Just that relationship is sufficient.
There is only sunlight on the pillow
Until that intensity is sufficient
To wake you up.
It is the kiss of the prince
And sleeping beauty.
Such is Understanding.
D. Relationship: the relationship to the
Guru is satsang.
Satsang is
Absolute attachment
To the Guru in God.
The relationship to the Guru
Is satsang.
That is the discovery,
That is the process.
That is the secret
Of the Siddhas.
That relationship is the yoga.
It is the universal process.
It is the single means.
It is very Truth.
Satsang is the living,
Present relationship
To one who lives as the Heart-
Not one who suggests it,
Who has experienced it,
Who envisions it,
Who only thinks about it,
Who only teaches about it,
But one who is the Heart,
Without any limiting qualifications.
People are super-cool
In relationship to God.
How many tears have you wept for God?
How much suffering have you done
For love of the Guru?
How much intense suffering
Has been generated in your life
For lack of self-knowledge?
Very little.
But look at how many hours and hours
You’ve spent retching over the most
Idiotic nonsense!
Look at how much time
You spend defending your own reluctance!
The energy of life is devoted to nonsense,
To this false principle.
And when the individual stands
Face to face with God, the Guru,
And his own nature, he is cool!
He is already right there on top of it,
He’s already got it, he’s straight,
And everything is all right.
And because everything is all right,
He’s not going to lie down
At the Guru’s foot.
He’s not going to
Bend his neck to God.
He’s not going to
Dissolve in the Heart.
When a man’s hunger
Becomes intelligent,
When his dis-ease
Becomes mind,
Then the spoken Truth,
The word of the Siddha,
And the living form of the Guru
Becomes his need.
Contained within that acknowledgement
Of suffering is the possibility
Of knowing the Guru.
And when you meet the Guru,
Then your adventure is halted.
When you truly see
Who the Guru is,
You are already awake.
It is not so much
That you turn to the Guru
Anyway.
The Guru turns to you.
And by the time you realize
That you have turned,
You have become nothing.
All the Guru is doing
Is being happy.
And, since he is happy,
He talks to his friends,
Engages himself with them
In ways that might serve
That happiness.
It’s really a very
Ordinary occupation.
It requires great humor,
Because all of one’s friends
Are suffering.
He is always right there
And you are always
Turning everywhere else.
The teacher
Must always deal
With the state
That people bring to him.
And that state
Is never radically free.
The new disciple
Is never a form
Of enjoyment.
He is not blissful.
He is not Truth.
The Guru does not come
To satisfy devotees or disciples.
A satisfied disciple
Is still the one he was.
The Guru is only interested
In the utter,
Radical dissolution
Of that whole limitation
That appears as his disciple.
The Guru moves
By non-support.
He undermines
The disciple.
Your death
Is what interests the Guru.
It is only the true Guru
Who is very interested
In your death.
Your death,
Not all the things
You call your life.
And he is very interested
In bringing it about
Very quickly.
He doesn’t want a long engagement!
He wants a sudden “death”
For everyone.
Such a one lives Truth
Until death, and then slips away.
And everyone will slip away
In Truth sooner or later.
The Guru is only looking
For company on his way out!
The Guru must exist
As a function.
He must be a paradox
For his devotees.
He must be elusive,
He must never
Take a fixed position.
He must be paradoxical, free,
In order to serve
Those who come to him.
The qualities of his action
Can’t be predetermine.
He won’t consistently assume
The qualities of an archetype,
The holy man, the yogi,
The philosopher.
He must be free
To appear in any form.
The Guru
Does not withhold.
He always lives Truth
Openly.
The Guru’s presence
Is a paradox
And a disturbance,
Except for those
Who grasp the principle
Of his activity.
They become he devotees
And are happy with him,
Because the process
Occurs in them
Without difficulty.
The Siddha
“lives” his disciples.
Bubba Free John
(1974)…..Adi
Da Samraj (2008)
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Note to reader:
As a member of Adi Da’s (then Bubba Free John’s) community from about 1973-1975, during which time I lived for nine months in Persimmon, the sanctuary where he lived. My service was to creating an index of his early books. I found these writings to be compelling, along with some of outrageous talks that have not found their way into print. Around his birthday in 1975 (to the best of my recollection), Adi Da was planning on moving with a small group to Hawaii. For that occasion, I arranged a selection of his compelling words by topic (mostly selected from his books) and hand wrote them in a blank book for his enjoyment. As far as I know, nothing ever came of that compilation. That became Book One of two parts, the second of which I completed some time thereafter. Now through the Internet, I make both parts available to interested readers. These blank books (I made a copy for myself) have been sitting on my bookshelves all this time, and after Adi Da’s passing, it occurred to me that this compilation would be very useful to many readers.
Enjoy,
Ed Hirsch
presenceofone@yahoo.com
Ashland, Oregon